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i see it, is what should have been. i think we should extend, if not and the debt ceiling issue. we should set it aside for a considerable period of time. we should tackle sequestration and we have to do that in the next six weeks. so i'm hopeful that we don't drag this out as some people are saying and then move on to the serious discussion of tax reform and environment issues. so i see it in a sense the opposite way. i say let's get this done, the sequestration part in the debt ceiling in the next six weeks and then move on. those who are saying let's do it dribble by turbo, they are the ones who would be undermining the effort to sit down and have a serious discussion of tax reform. >> we've got about two minutes left. francine. >> the question about itemize deductions. what s-sierra thought of having a cab, that people can use it for whatever they want for mark h., whatever. >> i think the problem with the cap is that it has to seriously consequence, especially for charitable contributions. because a substantial portion of the charitable contributions come from the very wealthy.
loopholes. they do that in europe now. >> even though we have been through this with the debt ceiling issue, what exactly would happen if congress did got raised the debt ceiling in what makes it a dangerous option of? >> our credit rating would go down and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would be paid veterans? >> there is no money? >> the republicans say pick and choose. so let's have a vote. who do we pack? -- pick? the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the republicans, don't do it. you are playing with fire. >> why? why are we playing with fire? what would happen? >> those are two different questions. the republicans have an idea. we have been through this with a credit rating. they know what would happen so they say pick and choose. the president made clear we're not talking about future expenses but paying for what congress has voted. pick and choose is something at this point* is theoretical but will become very real without spelling out. you will not pay soldiers or send out social security checks are paid defense contractors? that is what is
card bills. it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in a deal, it certainly went part way, but leaves a number of issues still on the table. would you care to raise that as an additional fiscal cliff that is facing us? would you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raise that term initially? >> as i said the fiscal cliff, if it is allowed to take place, it probably would have traded a recession this year. a good bit of that has been addressed. nevertheless, we still have fairly restrictive fiscal policies now. it is estimated that federal fiscal policy will we have quite a bit to do to address the their long-term sustainability issues. there's a lot more work to do. let me be very clear about that. it's going to be a long haul and it's not going to happen overnigh3
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